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Was 'Lady Macbeth' behind Barack Obama's snub of Gordon Brown?Posted By: James Delingpole at Mar 5, 2009 at 12:58:55 [ General] On US radio's Garrison show today, I was asked for my reaction as a true born Englishman to President Obama's double insult - first the sending back of the Winston Churchill bust, then his snub to Gordon Brown. "Tough one. Really tough one," I said, torn - as most of surely are - between delight at seeing Brown roundly humiliated, and dismay at having the special relationship so peremptorily, cruelly and bafflingly ruptured. Michelle Obama's dress sense may be impeccable, but what of her politics? (Photo: Getty)
Iain Martin is quite right here: no matter how utterly rubbish we have become as a nation in the Blair/Brown years, Britain's friendship is something Obama will come to regret having dispensed with so lightly. This was not the act of a global statesman, but of a hormonal teenager dismissing her bestest of best BFs for no other reason than that she felt like it and she can, so there. What was the guy thinking? In researching my new book Welcome to Obamaland, I discovered that Obama's judgment is pretty dreadful - but this? My favourite theory so far - suggested by presenter Greg Garrison - was that it was a move calculated to please his Lady Macbeth. At the moment in Britain, we're still in the "Doesn't she look fabulous in a designer frock" stage of understanding of Michelle Obama. Gradually, though, we'll begin to realise that she is every bit the terrifying executive's wife that Hillary Clinton was. Or, shudder, Cherie Blair. We may just LURVE Michelle's fashion sense. But Michelle doesn't reciprocate our affection, one bit. Her broad-brush view of history associates Brits with the wicked white global hegemony responsible for the slave trade. Never mind that a white, Tory Englishman - William Wilberforce - brought the slave trade to an end. Judging by her record, Michelle does not make room for such subtle nuance. Consider her notorious statement that: "For the first time in my adult life I am really proud of my country." Consider her (till-recently suppressed) Princeton thesis, "Princeton Educated Blacks And The Black Community." In it she writes: "I have found that at Princeton, no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my white professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don't belong. Regardless of the circumstances underwhich I interact with whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be black first and a student second." Here we see that she has mastered the authentic voice of grievance culture. She also - the thesis was written in 1985 - pre-empts the Macpherson report's ludicrous, catch-all definition of racism: "A racist incident is any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person." No matter how hard young Michelle's white undergraduate contemporaries try to be nice, it's not their behaviour that counts, but how Michelle feels. More worrying, though, and dangerous, than young Michelle's desperate quest for validation through victimhood is the other strain within her thesis. "As I enter my final year at Princeton," she writes. "I find myself striving for many of the same goals as my White classmates - acceptance to a prestigious graduate or professional school or a high paying position in a successful corporation. Thus, my goals at Princeton are not as clear as before." "Yes, exactly, you silly girl" you want to shriek at young Michelle as you give her a good shake. "It's called 'opening your mind', 'broadening your experience', 'allowing youthful dogma to be shaped by reality.' It's why people go to university, don't you know?" |
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I'm not sure I understand exactly what this "snub" is supposed to have consisted of, though I know that in a general way Obama has not appeared to be particularly enthusiastic about the "special relationship." However, Peter Hitchens argues that this "special relationship" never amounted to much on Washington's side anyway, long before Obama arrived on the scene:
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2009/02/down-with-the-special-relationship.html
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I'm not quite sure why the removing of a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval office is such a humiliation for Britain. Perhaps President Obama just doesn't like the bust? Maybe he thought an image of a foriegn leader was inappropriate in the office of the U.S. president? I think it's legitimate to cancel an outdoor press conference because of snow. Perhaps it's the press that is eager to humiliate Prime Minister Brown than the U.S. government with these silly stories.
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I would appreciate a better attitude towards Michelle Obama. This is just ridiculous. Idiot Bushites comparing her to the AHO Cherie Blair.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ethiomonarchist I'm not quite sure why the removing of a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval office is such a humiliation for Britain. Perhaps President Obama just doesn't like the bust? Maybe he thought an image of a foriegn leader was inappropriate in the office of the U.S. president? I think it's legitimate to cancel an outdoor press conference because of snow.
Ordinarily I don't think the issue with the Churchill bust would have received so much comment - I believe it is just the juxtaposition of this with the recent "Brown snub" flap which has provoked some speculation. The "snowy Rose Garden" is really just a detail to the overall diplomatic context here - Brown was supposed to get a "side-by-side" press conference with Obama, and he didn't get it at all; not in the Rose Garden, or anywhere else in the capacious, amply-heated Executive Mansion.
Part of the rationale behind these diplomatic "meet-and-greet" sessions between visiting heads of state and government is to allow an appropriate level of press coverage of the event and thereby serve as a public expression of political friendship. I do not happen to like Brown very much, and look forward to seeing him gone soon. That does not alter the fact that he is a visiting head of government who came to the U.S. in a representative capacity on behalf of his entire government and people, and was treated rather rudely for no good reason that I can discern.
I really do not see any way to view this little snafu except as a deliberate snub. Either that, or the White House staff is simply monumentally incompetent - the constantly-shifting announcements emanating from the Press Secretary's office in the leadup to the abortive "conference" would certainly seem to suggest this possibility.
Concerning Mr. Delingpole's contention that Michelle Obama's hand was somehow evident in this affair, I would have to classify that as blind speculation, pure and simple. The White House Chief of Staff does not answer to the First Lady.
That said, I really do not care for Mrs. Obama in the least. I know enough of her academic background to consider her a shrill, confrontational irritant who I sincerely hope will remain discretely in the background for the next four years. I do not have many objections against Mr. Obama himself as an individual. I do not find him compelling as a politician, and am constantly baffled that so many seem to. Yet he does at the very least strike me as an erudite, reasonable, and well-mannered fellow whom I could probably have a civil and enlightening discourse with.
I cannot say the same for his wife. If nothing else, I would have to concur with Mr. Delingpole's comparison to Cherie Blair. Dreadful.
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Quote: Originally Posted by KYMonarchist I would appreciate a better attitude towards Michelle Obama. This is just ridiculous. Idiot Bushites comparing her to the AHO Cherie Blair.
I don't think a Telegraph correspondent could be aptly termed "Bushite."
I do try very, very hard to give people the benefit of the doubt - even people whom I might be predisposed not to like very much. But Mrs. Obama leaves me straining very, very hard to discern anything compelling or likable.
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Well perhaps it is a calculated snub. If it is I'm actually quite pleased that it is being dished out to Brown who is probably my second to least favorite British Prime Minister. Tony Blair takes top honors for that distinction with his oily "New Labour" policies which tried to gut the monarchy in Britain.
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PM Brown is a great man and I look forward to more Labour control making Britain a modern country.
Shame on Mr. Obama for his treatment of the Prime Minister.
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Good grief, isn't Britain "modern" enough already? New Labour have practically destroyed it. I will never forgive them for the rape of the House of Lords alone. Not that Cameron's Tories are so much better...
Wabooswami, why are you even here? To irritate the rest of us? I have not seen you post one thing since your introductory post that could possibly identify you as a "monarchist," even allowing for the fact that monarchists can have a wide variety of views on other subjects.
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It has come to my attention that as with "LeBonapartist," the posts of "Wabooswami" do not in fact represent the views of any real person. So, disregard my previous post. But, bye-bye.
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Quote: Originally Posted by royalcello It has come to my attention that as with "LeBonapartist," the posts of "Wabooswami" do not in fact represent the views of any real person. So, disregard my previous post. But, bye-bye.
While LeBonapartist and wabooswami sound like idiots and/or weirdos, they do not appear to me to be "bots". Theodore, could you plz explain your post for the benefit of the forum?
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What I presume royalcello meant was that he was a former member posting that way just to be irritating. Not much of an effort if so, I mean he was irritating but only mildly. If LeBonapartist was a fake I am impressed, he came across as genuinely a raving loony.
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Apparently they were both Blayne. I wish he'd either come back for real or stop.
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I'm not sure if Obama's snub was intentional or based on incompetence. I also cannot fathom why he would do it; Brown always seemed to fawn all over Obama. However, even if this was directed at Brown and not Great Britain as a whole, I don't think you can separate the two. Brown is the top elected official of Great Britain and represents the policy of the state abroad. For that reason, O. should have at least treated him with respect in public; any problems should have been discussed in private.
However, if Obama, and some have speculated that this is the case, wants to distance the US from Great Britain and dissolve our "special relationship," I say resoundingly, "not in my name!" I hope the British realize that most Americans did not vote for a president who would do that.
__________________ "For every monarchy overthrown the sky becomes less brilliant, because it loses a star. A republic is ugliness set free." - Anatole France
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