Royalistdefender
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Head of Georgia's Royal Family to marry in February
HRH Prince David Bagration-Mukhrani, who is the head of the royal house of Georgia, is getting married on February 8 in Tbilisi. His bride is HRH Princess Anna Bagration-Grunzinsky, who is the daughter of a rival claimaint for Georgia's throne. David now lives full time in Tbilsi, having obtained Georgian nationality in 1994. He also has Spanish citizenship.
Anna, who was born in Tbilsi in 1976, is the daughter of Prince Nuzgar and his wife Leila Kipiani. Prince Nuzgar has considered that his line is superior to Prince David's as he descends in the male line from the last king of Georgia, George XII, who died in 1800. This line of succession, which is a senior line to the Bagration branch, would make Nuzgar the king of Georgia, and his elder daughter, as heir. The Georgian succession is based on male primogeniture. Prince Nuzgar has no sons. Thus, a marriage between Anna and David would eliminate dual claims as their son or daughter would represent both lines.
The religious wedding will take place at Tiblisi's Holy Trinity (Sameba) Cathedral.
Here is a link to a Spanish newspaper article about the wedding:
David, who was born in Madrid in June 1976, succeeded to the headship of the Georgian royal house in January 2008, following the death of his father, Jorge. David's older brother, Prince Irakli, renounced his rights to the throne.
Prince David is related to the Russian Imperial Family as his paternal great aunt Leonide, is the widow of Grand Duke Wladimir of Russia. Their daughter, Grand Duchess Maria, is David's first cousin once removed.
So far, none of the Georgian news sites in English have mentioned the marriage.
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I already posted about this here .
Royalistdefender
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Oops... I missed that one.
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I should just make a small correction. The succession to Georgia was not by male primogeniture, either theoretically or in pratice. if you look at the succession you will see it pass back and forth across lines, from older to younger brothers and back to cousins. This was not least because successive Kings were captured or killed by the Persians, and it was often necessary to name an adult male as king rather than an infant son or daughter. While some kings tried to insure the succession of their eldest sons, others did not. Neither was it exclusively male, with several Georgiian or Kartlian and Kakthethian, Queens Queen Tamnar, 1160-1213, who succeded her father, was one of Georgia's greatest monarchs). Cleverly, as here, they were married off to Bargatid cousins and thus kept the throne in the family and ao insured the actual military authority and leadership would be exercised by a male, but acting suo uxoris. The Bagration-Muchransky line is the cadet line of the Tsars of Kartli, Prince Vakhtang II, 7th Prince of Moukhrani, having become Vakhtang V, Tsar of Kartli, in 1658 (he converted to Islam, to keep in with the Persians, as Shah Naway I, but his son and descendants remained Christians). His grandson, Vakhtang VI was deposed by the unior line of Ivan II, Tsar of Kakhetia, who united his crown with that of Kartli and becoming King of united Georgia. It was his son who died in 1800 and left the throne to his young son, who was deposed in 1801. The descendants of the last Tsars of Kartli, Princes Grousinsky (i.e. of Georgia) and Princes Bagration, died out in 1892 and 1919; the only surviving line of the Tsars of Kartli is represented by the Muchransky line. The succession had passed in 1658 to the Muchransky's not simply because they were next in line genealogically b because the last Tsar of Kartli-Georgia had adopted Vakhtang as his heir. His grandson lost his throne because an Ottoiman invasion and the Tsar of Kakhetia took over because he was simply the more efficient leader. Today, the most junior line of Imeritia (deposed in 1810 when the Kingdom was incorporated into Russia) is extinct, the descendants of the last reigning line is reduced with no viable male heirs. Thus the marriage of the head of the Muchransky line, an astonishing dynastic achievement in these times, replays history and will serve to unite the monarchist movement. One may hope that this really might lead to restoration - it would be hard to imagine a King being as disastrous a leader as the present President of the Republic, who has needlessly brought so much suffering to his people. [I recognise this is a provocative statement and I have great sympathy for the plight of the Georgians, but little for their president who provoked the recent war with Russia].
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One minor correction; I believe it was Irakli not Ivan II who reunited Georgia, well most of it, and fathered the last King George XII. You are certainly right about there being no orderly primogeniture system, in fact on the other thread about this I compared the Georgian sucession to a lottery.
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I am very confident that this marriage raises the chances of a restoration in Georgia. It was a brilliant move on the part of the Bagration Princes to unite their claims like this. I agree that the President of Georgia should go. His tenure has been a disaster for his country, and Georgia has suffered enough. The only thing he has managed to do is make Putin even stronger than he was.
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We have done the arms for the wedding of Prince Davit Bagration-Moukhransky and Princess Anna Bagration-Gruzinsky in two versions.
Here’s the small one, and the achievement can ge viewed through this page: http://www.czipm.org/bagration-wedding.html
Click to enlarge...
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More on Georgia's upcoming dynastic wedding, from the GeorgiaTimes' English edition:http://www.georgiatimes.info/?lang=en&area=articleItem&id=6297&path=interview The article contains an interesting discussion of the Bagratid monarchy's prospects for a comeback, something which must seem a distinctly attractive alternative to the idiotic Mr. Saakashvili. --- John K.
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What is a little surprising is that although Prince David does not seem to publicly aspire to be the next Monarch, at least not according to the article in the local press, the invitation issued in the name of "The Royal Housheold of HM Davit Bagrationi Mukhran" reads "As requested by His Majesty the King of the Royal Household of Georgia (may God grant him long life) I have the honour to invite you to the Church wedding of His Royal Highness the Prince Davit Bagrationi Mukhran and Her Royal Highness the Princess Anna Bagrationi Gruzinsky... etc" The reply form then gave a telephone and fax number in Spain. It is hard, therefore, to discern whether the Prince is styled Majesty or Royal Highness.
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The Prince stated that he did not want to be involved in politics, which exactly what someone who aspires to a constitutional monarchy should say. I am extremely encouraged by developments in Georgia.
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I too pray for the Georgian Orthodox Monarchy to be restored, but I think much depends on the health of His Holiness Patriarch-Catholicos Ilia II, as he is the strongest advocte of restoration and his influence could be decissive as to the favourable outcome in that respect. And it seems that the halth of His Holiness could be seriously undermined. The official buletins state that his condition is stabile, but there is also talk of his urgent surgery in Germany etc. So, if something, God forbid, happens to The Patriarch it could put the whole cause of Georgian restoration on hold... We will see if he will be able to conduct the wedding ceremony or even attend...
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I am sorry to hear of the poor health of the Patriarch-Catholicos, and wish him well. I remain very happy about the prospect of this classically dynastic marriage, even if the participants protest that it is a love match. So much the better then, and the dynastic significance is unaltered. Slender as the prospects of restoration may be, they evidently exist, and will certainly not be harmed by unifying the claims. Minor side-point; doesn't all this rather give the lie to the assertions (which I never agreed with) that the marriage of Grand Duchess Maria's parents was unequal?
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Excitement is building in Georgia it seems over the Royal wedding taking place this Sunday uniting the Muhkrani and Gruzinsky branches of the Royal Bagration dynasty. http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//090206/photos_lf_afp/7647f1698620d6edf99befafc7d9ef3c/
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//090206/photos_lf_afp/4e6777e3d3871b5dfdd47a969185050e/
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Prince David & Princess Anna
7 Feb 2009
(VANO SHLAMOV/AFP/Getty Images)
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Originally Posted by Stairsainty [...] [T]he invitation issued in the name of "The Royal Housheold of HM Davit Bagrationi Mukhran" reads "As requested by His Majesty the King of the Royal Household of Georgia (may God grant him long life) I have the honour to invite you to the Church wedding of His Royal Highness the Prince Davit Bagrationi Mukhran and Her Royal Highness the Princess Anna Bagrationi Gruzinsky... etc" The reply form then gave a telephone and fax number in Spain. It is hard, therefore, to discern whether the Prince is styled Majesty or Royal Highness.
That is a bit eccentric; I managed to track down a public copy of the Spanish-language invitation on the Royal House's website:http://www.royalhouseofgeorgia.ge/es/invitacion_boda_espanol.php This version consistently uses the qualification of "Royal Highness." Perhaps whatever idiosyncrasies were evident in the invitation you received were "ironed out" in the public version? Last month, in recognition of the upcoming royal wedding, the GeorgiaTimes republished an old interview [from several years back] which Prince David gave to that newspaper when his father was still living:http://www.geotimes.ge/index.php?m=home&newsid=14728 I have also attached two more images of the royal couple, from the same source as the image provided above by Seth [see attachments below]. By now [approx 8:00 pm, Tbilisi time], the wedding itself will have already taken place at the very impressive Tbilisi Holy Trinity Cathedral , with a liturgy service having taken place beforehand at the Svetitskhoveli Cathedral in Mtskheta [12.5 miles northwest of Tbilisi], capital of the ancient Kingdom of Georgia. State-run Georgian television station 1TV had some coverage of the preliminaries to the wedding, which you can view here:http://www.1tv.ge/ReadMore.aspx?LanguageID=2&Location=2966 The video is worth watching (though the narration is in Georgian); it includes footage of the crowds gathered to witness the wedding, as well as footage of the bride and groom themselves and of what appear to be members of the Gruzinsky branch arriving at Svetitskhoveli. Be warned, however - the video takes an agonizingly long time to load! --- John K.
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