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Why don't you French just go and re-conquer French North Africa while you're at it? And we'll take back India.
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Don't go insulting the Queen now, that's not a conservative trait. 

One always blames Her Majesty's Ministers, never the Queen Herself.
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Why don't you French just go and re-conquer French North Africa while you're at it? And we'll take back India.


Oh, please don't.
Much Better to restore the Princely States with Her Majesty as Empress...
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The Queen is demonstrably conservative in the only ways she publicly can be: manner, speech, style, dress, deportment, behaviour, church attendance, marriage.

Things that ultimately matter more than politics.
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Well said good sir, Well Said!
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....... Frankly, I would fight this contingency. Louisiana should be restored to her natural borders -- the Rockies and the Appalachians. Vive le Roy !
I could see/support the Rockies to the Mississippi.  (The Isle of New Orleans might be negotatiable....)
I do not understand what you mean about 'seeing support.' You mean from the British and Spanish Loyalists or from the locals ? Also, what makes you say that the Isle of New Orleans is negotiable ? Do you think that the British should have it ?
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Though the Texas and Southwest issues might raise troubles with the Spanish Loyalists.... God Save the Queen & Vive le Roy
I have considered this and think that a border at the Brazos River on the West and the Alabama River on the East would be fair.
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Why don't you French just go and re-conquer French North Africa while you're at it? And we'll take back India.
Sounds good to me. How wonderful it would be if the Spanish, English, and French were to make a strategic agreement to assist one another in the reconquest of their empires.
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The Queen is demonstrably conservative in the only ways she publicly can be: manner, speech, style, dress, deportment, behaviour, church attendance, marriage. Things that ultimately matter more than politics.
But people are shaped by the laws, Theodore. The Romans mastered this concept and subdued the entire Mediterranean.
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....... Frankly, I would fight this contingency. Louisiana should be restored to her natural borders -- the Rockies and the Appalachians. Vive le Roy !
I could see/support the Rockies to the Mississippi. (The Isle of New Orleans might be negotatiable....)


I do not understand what you mean about 'seeing support.' You mean from the British and Spanish Loyalists or from the locals ? Also, what makes you say that the Isle of New Orleans is negotiable ? Do you think that the British should have it ?

I meant I could personally see your point and support the claim (based on history and current conditions).

The 'Locals' would likely take much convincing.  (They seem for the most part to be extremely loyal to the Republic)

As for the Isle of New Orleans, actually I think the Dominion of British West Florida should have it, based on its being incorporated with the former British Colony of West Florida during the Second Spanish Period.
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Though the Texas and Southwest issues might raise troubles with the Spanish Loyalists.... God Save the Queen & Vive le Roy


I have considered this and think that a border at the Brazos River on the West and the Alabama River on the East would be fair.

The Brazos might work....

The Mississippi was clearly a British waterway though and remains the proper western terminus of the lands under the control of the Britannic Majesty.
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A "progressive conservative" is an oxymoron.  Just like Karl Rove, who is the idiot savant that guides the glorious Jorge Busheron, called America "a nation of diversity" which is also an oxymoron. 

Only morons spout oxymorons.  This is how moronic this all is. It is surreal. It is beyond comprehension that all these smart people spouting oxymorons and it was Karl Rove who probably engineered Jorge Busheron's "compassionate conservativism".

All these "progressive conservativism" and "compassionate conservativism" are only psuedo-nyms for Socialism/communism.  That is what this supposedly conservative President is really pushing---socialism.

It was the godfather of British conservativism, Benjamin D'Israeli that said conservativism is about democracy. (Which by the way is another oxymoron!!!)  No conservative is "for democracy".  Each and every conservative from time immemorial, (alright not that far back but from Socrates/Plato), were AGAINST democracy. Every conservative fights agaisnt democracy; hates democracy and Benjamin Disraeli goes and says Conservatives must uphold democracy.

That is idiotic. 

The term Socrates and Plato described themselves were "misodemos" haters of democracy. That and the word "oligarchic" were the ancient Greek terms for conservativism.

To see American "conservatives" say anything about good about democracy is absolutely enlightening--that it points to their total intellectual bankruptcy and ignorance.  And these people think they lead?  And don't forget America's favorite conservative Rush Limbaugh who calls himself the "Dr. of Democracy".  It is the idiotic leading the idiotic. Here is a leader that really doesn't know what conservativism is in the first place. If he gets this fundamental soooo wrong, how Hell can he speak on anything else? 

I fail to find the words to describe this situation justly. It is beyond all words.

Loyalist till death. Long Live the Queen.
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I see Catholic blogs that have some decent things to say about liturgy and music, maybe even royalty.   But then I keep reading and eventually learn that we have to elect McCain/Palin because "democracy as we know it is at stake."  Whatever that means.  And then they lose me.
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Wheeler,
Those guys are from 'Time immemorial' 
According to Law the Time Immemorial is
from before AD 1189

In 1276 this time was fixed by statute
as the beginning of the reign of Richard I. 
(1189)
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....... Frankly, I would fight this contingency. Louisiana should be restored to her natural borders -- the Rockies and the Appalachians. Vive le Roy !
I could see/support the Rockies to the Mississippi. (The Isle of New Orleans might be negotatiable....)
I do not understand what you mean about 'seeing support.' You mean from the British and Spanish Loyalists or from the locals ? Also, what makes you say that the Isle of New Orleans is negotiable ? Do you think that the British should have it ?
I meant I could personally see your point and support the claim (based on history and current conditions). The 'Locals' would likely take much convincing.  (They seem for the most part to be extremely loyal to the Republic) As for the Isle of New Orleans, actually I think the Dominion of British West Florida should have it, based on its being incorporated with the former British Colony of West Florida during the Second Spanish Period.
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Though the Texas and Southwest issues might raise troubles with the Spanish Loyalists.... God Save the Queen & Vive le Roy
I have considered this and think that a border at the Brazos River on the West and the Alabama River on the East would be fair.
The Brazos might work.... The Mississippi was clearly a British waterway though and remains the proper western terminus of the lands under the control of the Britannic Majesty.
For purposes of defence and various other reasons, I disagree. This would all have to be settled by formal treaty anyway, and if I were present as a diplomat I would certainly support finding a resolution whereby the borders of Louisiana were from the Rockies and the Brazos to the Appalachians and the Alabama.
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I see Catholic blogs that have some decent things to say about liturgy and music, maybe even royalty.   But then I keep reading and eventually learn that we have to elect McCain/Palin because "democracy as we know it is at stake."  Whatever that means.  And then they lose me.



The one where the majority is more or less like yourself I suppose.....
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Oh, please don't.
Much Better to restore the Princely States with Her Majesty as Empress...


That's kind of what I meant. The colonial British Indian Empire not an independant Union of India.
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